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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:47:00 -
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There's a huge problem with the idea of microtransactions in any MMO, especially one with a subscription fee. The problem - it betrays the idea of a MMORPG as a whole. An RPG's purpose is to allow a person to become as great and awesome as he can, regardless of who he is in real life. I can be anyone I want to be. Even if you aren't a "Roleplayer", you still participate in that basic part of an RPG. In an MMORPG, you develop that person through hard work and time spent in the virtual world. The only real-life constraint is time, and that's even alleviated by EVE's awesome real-time skill training system.
If CCP does indeed continue down this path, then the MMORPG status of EVE will be a lie. Sure, there are lots of people. But now the idea of being a whole new person is being thrown out. Your in-game character is just an extension of who you are in real life. If you're a person who can afford these added costs, you can do anything in the microtransaction model. However, this inevitably cheats those who do not want to invest anything besides time. If non-vanity microtransactions make a rise in EVE, it will be more about who has the most free cash, and not about who really learns and puts time into the game. Also, the argument that PLEX from in-game -> AURUM makes this legitimate is bogus, seeing as the PLEX comes from a GTC bought in real money anyway.
However, we can't react to this junk by all ragequitting at the earliest mention of mass-implementation of microtransactions. If the OP's quotes from the article in question are correct, that's what the people pushing the microtransactions want. This game is still fun. This latest expansion hasn't killed it, although I do miss spinning my ship in station... Really, what we need to do is make it clear that the EVE playerbase is still committed to the old EVE, even if a majority of CCP developers and business consultants are not. Just wait and be ready to give CCP feedback on this junk, and let them know that we will not stand an unfair game advantage from microtransactions.
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:19:00 -
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Quote: "However, as a subscription based golden goose, EVE needs to incorporate the virtual goods sales model to allow for further revenue û revenue to fund our other titles, revenue for its developer: you."
That there shows that CCP clearly sees the EVE community as a way to get money, not as a loyal customer base that should be respected.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Skogen Gump
Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Quote: "However, as a subscription based golden goose, EVE needs to incorporate the virtual goods sales model to allow for further revenue û revenue to fund our other titles, revenue for its developer: you."
That there shows that CCP clearly sees the EVE community as a way to get money, not as a loyal customer base that should be respected.
This just in, CCP is a company ...
sheesh.
Companies need to treat their customers well and not squeeze them for all they're worth. Otherwise those customers leave. Unless they've given us EVE mind-altering drugs that keep us addicted to this..... 
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Isil Rahsen Lol http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/22/rumour-leaked-document-shows-ccps-microtransaction-plans/
Oh boy, here we go! Internet MMOG media go for it. 
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:47:00 -
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I think the staff changes that might happen as a result of this will be telling regarding the direction CCP plans to take with this MT junk. If Soundwave is still in the higher echelons, then we know where they're heading.
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor I think the staff changes that might happen as a result of this will be telling regarding the direction CCP plans to take with this MT junk. If Soundwave is still in the higher echelons, then we know where they're heading.
I would be surprised if anyone gets fired. This is part of CCP's core goal right now, you would have to remove all of management and reorganize the company completely to purge this.
I'm thinking that would be nice if not totally feasible....
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:16:00 -
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CCP first post...how about 1254?
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor on 23/06/2011 02:26:35
Originally by: Algathas
Isn't that CCP Soundwave?
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
This will be my signature....
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:02:00 -
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Breaking news!!! CCP responds to playerbase outrage!!
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ulmon Aulen "We're going to face an uphill struggle, and the reason many of us never talk about this publically is that we'd be burned at the stake by the players" - EVE Lead Game Designer
Did someone say burn?
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Reed Tiburon CCP HAS RESPONDED!
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535591
Now WTF are you supposed to say to that...
"Thanks for the kind words."
I bet they're loving those, and totally ignoring the rest of us, as usual.
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:13:00 -
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We should make a new thread with our demands. I know one person had listed them very nicely, but I can't find the posts in this threadnaught...
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cyber Duck So... it's just turned 5:30pm in iceland, end of their working day, the day after their internal newsletter was leaked... and still no word... guess we'll be here another 24 hours 
The burnings will now recommence:
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Cherche LaFemme
Originally by: Token Afrodude
Originally by: Cherche LaFemme kan i haz yo zikrit dokuments? ... i don't want to be a black sheep or whatnot, but i for myself i don¦t give a **** what Soundwave or whoever else unofficially said somewhere ... currently it's not happening, neither it looks like it will be in any near future, until then, good job on PR you managed to push majority of your customers into a /allofsuddencarealot mode, bravo.
btw this is my very subjective opinion i find it very lulz to read all this speculations, hypotheses and assumptions
oh, to be so niave again.
its not about being naive or not ... its not happening now, thats all of i care if it happens then i leave, as simple as that
Comes a point where you have to decide whether or not to keep spending time in something you know you'll leave pretty soon... 
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:58:00 -
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Well I finally cancelled my subscription after that response from Fallout.
So, anybody up for making a displaced EVE player guild/clan/whatever on SWTOR? 
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kallehd So, anyone has any ideias on when SW: TOR goes live? Now is looking like "the" timming! 
Heh, yeah, if they did it now or within a month, they would devour a pretty big chunk of the disgruntled playerbase...
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Erichan Edited by: Erichan on 23/06/2011 20:36:21 Edited by: Erichan on 23/06/2011 20:35:30 Edited by: Erichan on 23/06/2011 20:35:09 CCP Soundwave had time to comment on the ccp cardgames but not here...
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1497648&page=2
having trouble with link but copies fine to browser tab
What a punk.
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
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Mehrdad Kor-Azor
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Pann Hi, everyone
Some of you who have been around for a while may remember me. I was the original community manager for EVE. These days, I oversee the PR and Community teams. While most of what I do happens behind the curtains, I am still aware of whatÆs going on front and center. I would be lying if I said that whatÆs happening now didnÆt make me sad, but IÆm not here to ask for your sympathy. To be perfectly honest, IÆm here to buy time while we try to sort things out. No sense in lying about it so I'll call a spade a spade.
ItÆs clear that many of you are <understatement alert> angry </alert>. ThereÆs a lot happening, things are changing quickly and we havenÆt been as forthcoming as you were used to in the past. IÆm willing to step out front and take a lot of heat for that since I was the one who made the decision to hold off on responding for a while to see if things cooled down once the new wore off. I was wrong to do that and I apologize. We should have said something much sooner. We should have done more to address your concerns and be forthcoming, even if we werenÆt going to be able to immediately give you all of the answers you were looking for or the answer your questions in ways that will instantly turn those frowns upside down. To be even more candid, I cannot answer all of your questions, either, but I am working with the people who can to start getting those answers for you. Again, I know weÆre doing this past the expiration date of your patience but I hope youÆll bear with me. I know that, with very few exceptions, most of you donÆt know me from Adam. I havenÆt earned your trust or respect; therefore I have no right to ask anything of you û but I am going to try, anyway. Can I please count on at least some of you to help bring the pitchforks and torches down a few notches?
Like I said, I wonÆt be able to answer all of your questions tonight, but I promise weÆll start getting some info out tomorrow. As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market. Second, many people are unhappy about the CaptainÆs Quarters. Third, there are some performance issues with Incarna. I would appreciate it if you would confirm my observations or tell me what IÆm missing, but I do ask that you do it in a productive way. I will remove posts without prejudice if they are counterproductive to the conversation I hope to have with you.
If youÆve read this much, thanks for staying with me. If you have something to say, IÆd like very much to hear it.
Humbly yours, ~P~
Let's hope we get a good, straightforward, and honest response sometime soon.
Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
EVE Online: Tyrannis Teaser Summer 2010
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Posted - 2011.06.24 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Klingon Admiral "Creation is so precious, and greed so destructive."
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